May 07, 2006

ICE有賣月票嗎?

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天外飛來一大筆!

老P先生的綠色城市研究計畫 ,申請到一筆歐盟獎學金,將提供他到德國Kassel大學交換研究三個月。三個月!!!那我不就也可以跟著轉戰德國三個月,太好了,他去「做」他的研究,我去「坐」我的ICE。

三個月說長不長,說短也不短,週六去水石書店一趟,把架上玲瑯滿目的德國旅遊書大至瀏覽一遍,先買了一本 DK回來,準備好好研究一番,這三個月得好好的從長計議,大家如果有「任何」關於德國的資訊與網站,就請不賃提供給我們囉!Turtle UK報即將要改版成「DE報」了,屆時就會從Kassel報告我們的最新消息。

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Kassel不僅是格林兄弟的故鄉,位在德國著名的童話大道中心,也是Hesse州北方的文化、科技、商業城鎮,最具知名度的大概就屬五年一度的Documenta文件大展,可惜眾所矚目的第12屆「Documenta12」要2007年才辦。

在這裡要先感謝詩丹法尼文件,已經讓我連結到許多德國的相關網站……。

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哇!Joy的姊姊都來了啊
歡迎歡迎
你也在萊登嗎
那一定認識R&B這對couple囉
有機會來雪菲爾玩玩
我們就住在Joy家隔壁條街喔

turtle 發表於 May 14, 2006 04:15 PM

Hi, turtle:
我是唸音樂學的Joy的姊姊, 現在在荷蘭.
德國,我過去半年去過三次, 大致地區都走遍了.
Kassel也有去,郊區山上一個大得不得了的公園兼皇宮,假日可以去爬爬山.
等你回來分享更多德國所見所聞

Been 發表於 May 14, 2006 08:25 AM

Stefanie,
我好像真的沒辦法"負重"
每次自己出門背10D
回來都肩痛好幾天啊
可惡的Canon居然不出Pro-1第二代了
很想換一台相機
還真的不知道要換什麼好

likimi,
感謝感謝
這些資訊對我們很重要啊
歡迎繼續潛水
不過偶爾要起來吸一口氣比較好喔

Stefanie,
BahnCard好像還蠻適合的
再來好好研究看看

飛達賣得還比德國買便宜啊
不過
真的得仔細研究看看
但是遠水就不了近火啊

Stefanie,
謝謝你來信的詳細回覆
我這就差魚妹妹去幫我找一找
對於時空背景不夠熟習的國家
要讀英文版的書
可能會連名字地名都搞不清楚
前因後果可能會兜不在一起了
所以就想找一些中文書來補一補
如果有想到其他的就麻煩分享一下囉
真是太感激你

德國
我們就先幫你去探探路
哈哈
真沒想到會有這種好機會啊
因為這是綠建築最德高望重的國家
還能跟著那邊的教授看看聽聽
雖然時間短暫2-3個月
應該也可以有一些刺激吧
再者
還可以去實地看一些案例
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開心開心

德國文學的確是比較陌生的一塊
以後有機會會找來啃一啃
現在僅能先惡補一下

你提到的幾本文學作品
我只有在以前學生時讀過"香水"
可惜當時的體悟不夠
當然也就感動不足
以後有機會應該再回味一下

ps.我把這封信貼上迴響
這樣比較好找到
謝謝囉

pepsi,
真的是個不錯的機會耶
我們會努力帶一些東西回來分享的

turtle 發表於 May 11, 2006 03:40 PM

哇! 好棒的機會啊!!!
(滿心的羨慕中...)
真的很為你們高興耶~~

屆時又可以看到夫人老P從德國傳回的人事物
真的很令人期待哦!!!

pepsi 發表於 May 10, 2006 12:05 AM

Hallo 德朵,

妳在留言中提的這些書

我只有看過三本 :

多瑙河注 (重點在多瑙河, 會提到發源地在德國的幾個小鎮, 實際上跟德國好像沒啥關係~)

在柏林走路 (中文大學教授的札記, 生活上的瑣事和感受記述的蠻好的, 但是很多是他跟那裡文學界的互動.演講之類的)

德意志風情 (我覺得這本主要的內容是提供留學資訊, 對學生應該蠻有幫助的, 不過......我不喜歡作者的寫作方式~ 覺得很不親切)

其他妳提的書......我發現沒去網路書店找平常還真看不到咧~

像我現在就對妳提起的"總理住在游泳池"很有興趣

我喜歡讀跟他們思路有關的書, 因為真的跟東方人的想法差很多, 學習學習 :D

另一本翻譯書 老P應該會知道英文版的 李伯斯金的回憶錄-- "光影交舞石頭記"

我覺得那本很不錯~ 尤其要去猶太博物館前 看看那本會更了解柏林當年的歷史

我最近反而比較偏向看德國人寫的文學作品

雖然時代比較不貼近 但好像可以感受當年的德國事

齊格飛‧藍茨(Siegfried Lenz)的 "失物招領處"(場景是DB) 和 "少年與沉默之海" (場景在漢堡)

聽說這位作者的成名作是"德文課" 不過台灣一直沒有翻譯咧~

徐林克 (Bernhard Schlink) 的 "我遺落的那一半" (場景 海德堡和曼海姆) 扣人心弦的偵探劇情 哈~

他的另一本書好像比較有名 "我願意為妳朗讀" 不過因為內頁的排版和字體大小我覺得不夠易讀 所以也一直沒買來看

最近在看的是徐四金的 "香水" (被迷住了~)

而妳寫到的"巴伐利亞的藍光"和"你在哪裡德意志"(內容聽起來很硬:P) 感覺也不錯~ 不過真的沒翻過

以上給妳參考看看囉~

Stefanie 發表於 May 9, 2006 06:13 PM

德國火車通行證"同行票"(不含開票6歐元)
我在飛達看的只要210歐元捏(一個月10天, 二等車廂)
而頭等車廂是280歐元~
你們可去看看這個"BahnCard"適不適合你們?!
http://www.db.de/site/bahn/en/travelling/tickets/bahn__card/bahn__card.html

Stefanie 發表於 May 9, 2006 05:27 AM

夫人,
潛水很久, 忍不住浮上來道喜.
先恭喜兩位要到德國, 很羨慕ㄋㄟ.........
兩個有關德國資料部落格供您參考,
德國生活網 http://www.livehere.de/
非常德國 Very Germany http://www.verymart.com/
當然很期望看到兩位到德國的照片及感想...

likimi

likimi 發表於 May 9, 2006 02:36 AM

老P如果買了5D你們就不用常常搶10D啦 :D

Stefanie 發表於 May 9, 2006 01:45 AM

Alex,
嗯嗯
我們三年前去
就是買這種兩人同行票(一個月內五天)
只是這如果沒有搭長途的ICE
似乎也不怎麼划算
當時有坐一趟柏林到法蘭克福
所以很超值

好怪
我剛剛看了之前的車票German Rail Twin Pass
兩人同行票怎麼337歐元
現在網站上怎麼才270歐元
便宜這麼多???

你有姑姑住德國
常常可以去拜訪啊

turtle 發表於 May 8, 2006 11:27 PM

忘了補充一件事
老P收到這個通知時
他的第一個反應居然是"我把一些錢拿去買台5D,你覺得如何?"
而且他是很認真的說
不是開玩笑的
拜託一下
4年前買的G2都還在服役
10D才用一年多
給我繼續撐著......(退件)

阿莫,
會的會的
我什麼都不會
就是會玩

Stefanie,
首先
要非常非常感謝你的blog
成了我們的活字典
得到很多寶貴的資訊
我們就先去幫你用了
不要羨慕啦
等提歐多退伍
他不是也要到德國了嗎

真可惜錯過了五年一度的藝術大展
明年暑假不知道還會在這裡嗎
(希望不要比較好)

不知道
你有沒有推薦的一些關於德國的中文書單
我在網站上找了幾本
請你幫我過濾看看囉

總理住在游泳池/玉山
新德國新歐洲/三聯(香港)
多瑙河注/時報文化
在柏林走路/牛津大學
你在哪裡,德意志?一個找不到自我的國家/左岸文化
巴伐利亞的藍光/二魚文化
德意志風情/春天

fish,
還有"玩耍宮"跟"爽宮"啊
那你要不要來德國玩哪
可以計畫一下

瑞玲阿姨,
哈哈哈
耳語的力量真不容小看
還好是好事
等等
你們家的才更要用力的敲鑼打鼓來恭喜呢
甄試上陽明醫科耶
有沒有準備擺桌請客呢
替我們跟他說恭喜囉

usosally,

那有這麼誇張啦
連紅字條都出來了
不過
真的很開心
因為我們都超愛德國
可以再度拜訪
實在是求之不得啊
還可以去補拍我之前用G2拍的照片
那時候256MB可以"兔"12天
200萬畫數???能看口嗎
現在一天1G都不夠用啊

簡單,
嗯嗯
謝謝分享
猶太會館這次一定要去的
上次去柏林居然會遺棄它
真是懊悔莫及
還好有機會補救啊

kaya,
德國真的有提供學校附近交通工具免費啊
還真的不知道耶
這麼好康
那英國會不會太坑人哪
公車一天3.5鎊...見鬼了

改天來好好問一下你們的德國朋友

Amanda,
謝謝你提供這個很有用的資訊哪
老P正在積極查詢中
不知道好不好申請呢
噓...沒那麼誇張啦
"我們家之光"還說得過去

老布,
呵呵
時間還要跟德國教授橋一橋
現在又很尷尬卡到暑假快到
還沒決定呢
你也可以嘗試開著小白到訪德國喔

aquarious,
哈哈
我想應該是沒那麼快啦
就算趕上
也買不到票吧
我還是先留在英國看溫布敦就好囉

花花老師,
您過獎囉
我們一定會一個認真研究一個認真玩
一定會在這裡跟大家認真分享的
ps.謝主任本來就很酷咩...嘻嘻

鴨蜜瓜,
原來如此啊
不過被人家來鬧還真是很掃興啊
這樣讀者看了很想發言
卻要一直憋住...會得內傷捏

ps.
你也太厲害
連那個WC你都特地去拍照啊
四天三夜...一定又住很讚的B&B了喔

CHIU*,
我只知道有德國pass那種火車聯票
只是不知道有沒有更便宜的月票啊
再來查一查
一定會帶很多照片回來饗宴大家滴
放心啦

vicky730,
感恩啦...一定一定

turtle 發表於 May 8, 2006 11:15 PM

真好....我也好想再去德國阿....
2007年...嗯...記下來了~~~

http://www.bahn.de/-S:PtVOZ9:eSLWSdNNQ8OBm9NNNQEM/p/view/international/englisch/travelservice/german_rail_pass.shtml
月票的網站...跟Euro Pass差不多

ALex 發表於 May 8, 2006 11:02 PM

恭喜囉!
期待夫人德國報導...

vicky730 發表於 May 8, 2006 02:07 PM

ICE應該是有賣月票的
以我這樣鬆鬆的學生口袋來說
他真的是貴族火車
不! 是專車

想那時 我也跟老P一樣
不計任何待價都要"趕"走那一本車上的到站簡介
也一樣後來才知道 原來可以拿啊...呵!

最後還是要恭喜恭喜啊~~~~
超期待你們拍回來的照片的
又要留口水了....^^

CHIU* 發表於 May 8, 2006 02:04 PM

恭喜老爺夫人啊~~~

很久以前去過德國,回來還去學了一年德文
不過現在我只剩下會說一些"我愛你/現在幾點/謝謝對不起在建..."之類的短句~哈!
我很喜歡德國啊~~~
更期待到時老爺夫人客居德國的實況轉播哦!

還有啊~順便借版面回應一下夫人
我家BLOG留言版關閉有一些很不好的原因啦~
大體來說是個我認識的小白來鬧了我
我就只好犧牲大家權益關了留言版
我改用E MAIL跟大家聯絡啦
有事可以E MAIL我~~~我一直都在哦!
我也常去我留過言的BLOG巡水田
所以不用擔心我會漏看哦

我可以體會夫人的用心啦~
每一則留言您都很認真回答
真是辛苦妳了~~~之前我去WARWICK
我有去那個旅遊資訊中心後面特地看妳介紹的詭異廁所
還真是"猥瑣"~(好像用錯形容詞?)
有拍它2張照片~哈哈~紫藍色發暈的燈光好像異世界哦
WARWICK真的很不錯~我們去了4天3夜
吃到目前為止,征戰全英國各地後,最好吃的牛排
在一家四.五百年都鐸式建築PUB裡

我現在可以體會為何夫人和BBC說WARWICK是英國排名第一名城堡
它很有效在管理規劃,門票雖然很貴~但我覺得很值得^0^
抱歉~離題了捏~~~謝謝妳來我家噗叱一笑
這樣我就覺得非常開心~~~哈哈~~~呱呱呱!

鴨蜜瓜 發表於 May 8, 2006 01:39 PM

哇 天大的喜事ㄝ
可是今天碰到謝主任時
酷酷的他很ㄤˋㄉㄡ 居然一個字都沒提起
明天可得好好給他ㄌㄜˇ一下

老P真是要得
徳朵幫夫 功不可莫
更大的受惠者是
我們這群 只需動動食指
就可以臥遊世界 周遊列國
真是普天同慶啊
拭目以待中

白花花 發表於 May 8, 2006 01:19 PM

太棒了
還可以看到世界杯喔

恭喜!!!

aquarious 發表於 May 8, 2006 01:03 PM

可喜可賀,
請問是幾月到幾月啊?
有機會的話說不定可以去德國拜訪賢伉儷啊。
(小白應該不會出現的啦)

brian 發表於 May 8, 2006 10:59 AM

恭喜夫人賀喜夫人這是台灣之光啊
順道一提海外學人若在國際研討會有著作
發表,台北駐英辦事處也有補助喔
讓台灣在國際亮相,給些補助也是合情合理ㄉ
試著積極ㄉ申請看看囉

Amanda 發表於 May 8, 2006 09:49 AM

哇~~什麼時侯出發啊?
可惜最近論文超趕,否則應該去德國"拜訪"你們才對哦^_^
P好好做研究,德朵可要好好幫我們報導哦!

對了,Mitchell Street最近剛來了一個德國人,如果你有需要的話,可以來找他問問題囉!(先提供一個小優惠,可能你們已經知道了啦!就是…如果是德國學生的話,好像在校區附近所有的交通工具都免費,交換學生應該也包括吧!?)

kaya 發表於 May 8, 2006 09:14 AM

哈哈~真的恭喜夫人呢~
真好~真好~
好好玩~期待美美的照片^^

之前看一本旅遊的書《站在發光的地方:德國日與夜的交界處》
裡面有介紹不少景點,但是現在手頭上沒有那本書="=
感覺猶太博物館應該蠻值得去逛逛的^^"
http://www.juedisches-museum-berlin.de/site/DE.homepage.php
不知道何不何夫人胃口呢:D

簡單 發表於 May 8, 2006 07:13 AM

已經去隔壁台報過喜了
不過夫人真的可以寫張紅字條呀
以前鄉下地方不是有人考上醫學院都會貼嗎
我們比照辦理吧

usosally 發表於 May 8, 2006 05:22 AM

非常非常用力地給他恭喜,真是有夠厲害!台灣親友團已經迅速耳語,造成轟動!

張瑞玲 發表於 May 8, 2006 04:22 AM

姐和幾乎
你倆這輩子一定是走到"玩耍宮"兼"爽宮"
(我也躲在公司角落偷偷羨慕中)
太爽了啦 噗

fish 發表於 May 8, 2006 01:19 AM

(躲在公司角落羨慕中...哈哈)
怎麼那麼好!! 老P真是厲害厲害~
卡塞爾我們也沒去過
不過明年的文件展的確想去看看(剛好退伍:D)
ICE應該有賣月票喔~
夫人好好去坐ICE吧~
讓我們大飽DE眼福!!!

Stefanie 發表於 May 8, 2006 12:46 AM

研究好好做,
玩耍的也要好好玩阿~

恭喜黑~

阿莫 發表於 May 7, 2006 09:01 PM
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