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liuchunkai 發表於 April 19, 2018 11:48 AM

mingyang,
sorry~sorry~~
認錯人了(糗)
有個朋友的名字發音跟你一樣

謝謝支持與關心
我會好好運動復健的

mrs.turtle 發表於 May 5, 2007 09:41 PM

sorry, I am not Dr Chang. I live in Taiwan and I enjoy your blog very much.
Hope you get better soon.
Ps: I am a surgeon in NTUH

mingyang 發表於 May 4, 2007 11:15 AM

非常非常感謝大家的關心啊
溫馨滿人間~~

Oscar Kwan,
已經去看過醫生囉
謝謝你的建議~~

junhua,
什麼
我以為你早就看過了啊
痛成這樣妳是怎麼忍過來的呢
牙痛更痛苦啊
對了
妳應該有申請HC2吧
千萬不要把前白白浪費在這種NHS
要記得去要回來喔

Alhorn,
真的很堅持啊
台灣有這麼多牙醫
你一定要指名這位喔
好牙醫應該也還很多吧
這是我第一次聽到在台灣看牙要等這麼久的例子
你的牙醫這麼紅啊~~

KEATSLI,
半個月掛一次病號~~
真是辛苦啊
我最討厭的就是醫院的味道
要多多強身
不要靠藥物吧
以後去花蓮
就可以每天很多很多運動囉

birdshouse,
非不得已
實在不想吞藥啊
忍耐中~~

裕,
OKOK
我會試這個看看的
感恩啦

PaPa,
沒錯
我就是這樣告訴醫生的
在電腦前坐太久造成的疼痛
真是活該吧

你也要多多保重啦

SANADA,
不知道日本的醫療服務如何呢
台灣真的是優啊

La Veer,
加拿大也這樣啊
真的有點納悶了
這些歐美國家的人
到底是怎麼活過來的
可能就是這樣
所以他們都演化出比較強悍的基因吧
出門在外
也請多多保重囉

amy,
你的工作也要多小心腰部受傷啊
搬東搬西
又拉重物
又久站
很可怕的
再過兩年你就知道嚴重了
為了你的諒諒
請多保重吧

jenny.tw,
再一次謝謝你的寶貴資訊
非常受用哩
也讓我多瞭解一點下背痛到底是怎麼一回事
我有照著做運動
你也保重哩

kaya,
醫生說約復健師要等12週耶
果然如你說
開了止痛藥
一個月後如果痛了再來

我還是靠自己吧
我的束腰有兩根細鐵片
勉強還可以
但是坐著弄束腰
真是很痛苦耶
快要不能呼吸了

clio,
謝謝你寶貴的血淚經驗啊
我會多注意的
希望真的只是我太擔心
多多運動就會好了
最重要的
不要坐在電腦前
可能兩週就會痊癒吧
哈哈

白花花,
我真是汗顏哪
花花都還沒這樣
我的筋骨居然已經到了這個地步了
慘啊
多動多動~~

earing,

開刀~休息兩個月~

我的天啊
真是很辛苦又痛苦吧

在英國看神經科?
很難耶
他們這裡看病
不是你想花錢看就看得到
要你註冊的診所的醫生幫你填轉診單
然後轉去大醫院排隊
等好幾個月才看得到專科醫生
不是像我們你可以選擇或指定我要看就看的
很悲哀啊

我們去大醫院當天掛號
頂多等著幾小時
就可以了吧

ukla,
感恩啦
我一直很想把你的就醫經驗告訴大家
命都快沒了
也是在急診室裡耗著
這是我聽過最最最扯的
你有機會也來寫一篇回憶錄吧

arlene
原來真的很多人都有背痛的問題啊
你有篇文章說到回台灣就醫
也是去治療這個Ankylosing Spondylitis(這是什麼?)嗎
現在好多了吧
這種毛病如果不特別注意
似乎復發的機率會很高
出門在外
真的很麻煩
一定要自立自強啊
請保重啊
謝謝關心囉

老布醫官,
是要冰敷喔?
但是我也不知道這屬於急性痛還是慢性痛
如果是慢性痛是不是就要熱敷啊

愛丁堡卜媽,
有小孩的媽媽
應該就更瞭解英國的醫療制度吧
一定更多不可思議的經驗
不知道你們家卜爸是怎麼看待他們的醫療制度啊
我真的很好奇
英國人一定很習慣了
只是他們如果遇到急症
真的來得及嗎

KEATSLI,
面試結果如何啊
這個我比較好奇

我的脊椎很直也沒有特別有突出的地方
其實我也不是醫生
怎麼會知道哪裡突出了
昨天看醫生
她也不幫我按按看

mingyang,
請問是Dr.Chang嗎
謝謝關心啊
我去看了醫生
把所有症狀都告訴醫生
她說先吃藥 再觀察一個月
所以也不知道到底什麼毛病啊
希望只是簡單的背痛問題
不要太複雜
在這裡真的沒有生病的條件啊
你一定比我們更清楚英國的醫院吧

ALex,
對喔
我想起來了
我倒是還沒痛到起不來的地步
還可以出去走到
算好了吧
醫生就是看到我走路的樣子
說應該還沒有太大的問題

針灸?
我還真的不敢嘗試耶
怕怕~~

女性的臀部肌肉比較弱?
是指什麼啊
尤其像我這種臀部沒肉的
是不是會更慘
完全沒有支撐啊

5485,
並病因睡眠不足
這個厲害
如果我老媽是醫生
一定也是這樣跟我說的
我從小不管發生什麼狀況
她就是歸咎於睡眠不足
也許有道理的
就是沒有足夠的休息吧

是啊
台灣什麼都有得治
說得好啊

mrs.turtle 發表於 May 1, 2007 11:50 AM

別緊張.. 就找個理由回來台灣看診~ 什麼都有得治
像我最近被推拿醫師診斷出腳後跟肌肉失去彈性
所以走路容易腳痛~ 病因叫做睡眠不足.. 嘿嘿~沒聽過吧
有空去游泳.. 這大概是最好的運動了 不管治療什麼疼痛

5485 發表於 April 30, 2007 05:18 AM

夫人阿...我去年跟前年也有相同的症狀喔
記不記得我以前部落有提到我背痛到躺在床上
結果我也是被醫生排到"下個月"
不過後來有去照x光, 超音波都查不出所以然
去年回台灣給我姑丈針灸, 今年除了有腰酸背痛, 大多還好
去年年底跟我朋友聊天, 他弟弟是醫生
他說女生因為臀部的肌肉發展比較弱, 等你好一點時
有空多訓練自己的臀部肌肉(做瑜珈真的有用喔...)
希望你沒事:)
=>我可以了解你的痛苦...因為我曾經因為這樣下不了床

ALex 發表於 April 30, 2007 02:57 AM

If your symptom just localized to the back, it would be less likely to be the HIVD(herniated intervertebral disc) which would have pain radiation to the lower limbs and muscle weakness.
In the acute stage of low back pain, it is very important to take a good rest. Avoid bending your back and keep your back straight. It would relieve your pain if you use gentle ice massage over the tender area. If you have any neurological sign such as numbness or muscle weakness, you should go to your doctor as soon as possible. Hope you would recover soon.

mingyang 發表於 April 29, 2007 03:53 PM

夫人:

我忙完了面試,沒有看到妳是否被醫生診療的情況如何?所以不放心,並附上一個妳可能也知道的【國家網路醫院】,他有線上檢測的系統,可以大概的評估,要不就是妳先彎下腰,請老p先生幫妳注意脊椎是否有哪裡比較突出?或是是否有順著下來(請見諒我嘴拙),行起坐臥的姿勢平時可以就要注意一下,還有請減少搬重物或是多練瑜伽都是可以避免這樣的情況的。

請多保重!希望不是那樣的情況。

KEATSLI 發表於 April 29, 2007 03:46 PM

其實,NHS讓大人等就算了,他們連對小孩都這樣!ˇ_ˇII
所以,我們現在學聰明了,有什麼問題都先打去NHS DIRECT,
線上會有專業護士接電話,了解病情後會幫你跟醫院掛急診,
不過,跟她們說時,當然是要把症狀誇大一點囉~*_^

NHS direct numbers: 0845 4647

http://www.nhsdirect.nhs.uk/

愛丁堡卜媽 發表於 April 29, 2007 02:09 PM

如果痛得受不了,先用消炎藥跟肌肉鬆弛劑頂一下吧。
在急性發炎期,最重要的工作是降低發炎反應。這時候需要冰敷,熱敷只會加重症狀。

brahman 發表於 April 29, 2007 01:45 PM

Mrs Turtle
I just had a similar experience of low back pain as well as the experience of visiting NHS. Very much understand the awful problems and feelings of UK NHS. If your case is just 椎尖盤突出,that is not so bad, I hope your case won't be the same as mine, which is called Ankylosing Spondylitis. You can try to distinquish symptoms from one to another by searching information on the Internet, and then estimate the situation to see if you need go back to Taiwan to have proper medical examinations or treatments.

arlene 發表於 April 28, 2007 06:22 PM

直接到Walk-in Centre
No appointment necessary
just walk in...

Address:
Sheffield GP Collaborative
A Floor
Royal Hallamshire Hospital
Glossop Road
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ukla 發表於 April 28, 2007 04:36 PM

夫人:
  今天是偶然看到你的文章的。
  建議你要去看神經內科或外科哦,一定要看神經科類別的哦。因為發生的地方在”脊椎”,雖然骨科也有在看,但是事關神經建議你要掛”神經科”,這是我的切身經驗,我今年才因為椎間盤突出而開完刀,已在家休養了二個月,已經在上班了。
  你的情況應該不會很嚴重,做復建及熱敷,儘量讓身體伸展(在痛時就別做了好好休息),好好保養注意應該就沒問題了,搬東西之類的姿態都要注意,蹲下去再把東西抱起來,才不會對腰部造成太大的傷害了。
  要找對醫師才不會延誤了治療時期喲,我就是被一些警覺性不高的醫師拖的,沒有及時做復建。只有在最後一次發作起來,臨時去看骨科,那個醫師說我可能要看神經科才能止住痛了,打針也不見得會止得住,發作起來叫天天不靈,叫醫生醫生也不見得靈~~~
  好好保重!!

earing 發表於 April 28, 2007 04:35 PM

Take good care of yourself!
先上網查一查 多些了解
年紀輕輕 可別"走到老人運"
真急死人哪

白花花 發表於 April 28, 2007 02:57 PM

夫人,
妳的腳會不會覺得酸麻或是一陣陣抽筋的感覺,
如果不會,那妳先不要擔心是椎間盤突出的問題,
就算是,也只是很輕微的那一種.

如果真是椎間盤突出,也有輕重之分,
輕的,初期的,做復健就能好,
能不開刀,千萬別開刀.

我不是醫療人員,會知道這些是因為身邊的家人和同事剛好在這一兩年內陸續都有此病,
我媽媽去年十月才因為這個病開刀,
她是痛了好幾年,忍了好多年的不適才變成需要開刀的.

據我所知,其實現在我們這種長坐電腦前的人都有機會得到這種病,妳先不要緊張.
依照醫生的說法,現代人或多或少脊椎都有問題,只是輕重以及忍痛度的差異,只是這兩年"流行"這個病名,搞的有些風聲鶴唳.

我為了脊椎的問題,已經看了兩年多的中醫了,就像妳說的健保卡拿去蓋蓋經過針炙推拿後就會好多,這兩年治療下,已經能把發作的時間拉長,不過真正改善是因為練了瑜伽,雖然因為脊椎的關係,有很多動作無法做到很標準,不過最重要的是讓我們這種久坐電腦前的身體有機會做伸展的運動,如果在英國有機會可以接觸,妳可以試一試,先不要設定目地,就當它是運動也是好的.

clio 發表於 April 28, 2007 02:44 PM

德朵…
這要問我啦! 我是從台灣痛來這,可是在英國治好囉!
你不要聽她們的啦!你就早上8:45左右直接去現場掛號,
98%都可以當天看到診(我是每次早上去都一定可以約到),
不管看那個醫生都行…

只是你要記得一件事,一定要堅持馬上給你約復健師…
他們可能會開止痛藥給你,叫你休息一、二星期,
有需要再約復健師,因為復健師的客人很多…
(除非你真的覺得你是一時的,否則你就跟他說,你已經痛很久了,觀察過了,請他們盡快幫你約……)

我上次是也等很久,但印像中大約一個月吧!?…不是太久,
你最近最好是多躺跟走,減少坐就是了…
如果可以,去游泳真的很好,會馬上感覺好很多哦!!

我上次約到的復健師很好,雖然沒有台灣的各種先進設備,
但很仔細,我覺得療效更好,是治本的感覺…我現在算是幾乎沒再復發囉 ^_^

ps.不知你的護腰是那種,我的是有鐵片支撐的,如果你需要我可以拿去給你(雖然可能會太大^^")

kaya 發表於 April 28, 2007 02:41 PM

哦哦!下背痛?
我也有過,自從發生過浴室滑倒的慘劇後,下背痛發生過三次,後來發現”腰椎及骨盆腔一帶做好保暖”就沒再發生過(個人經驗).
當然,我也去找過骨科醫師照X光,醫生說要注意坐姿正確,做舒緩背部的動作(平時也要運動:游泳最好),體重也有關係,還說過急性下背痛三天內就醫比較不會痛那麼久(看德朵夫人寫的,這點大概是不可能的),一般約一週左右就會慢慢好轉的,一點經驗提供,請保重.

jenny.tw 發表於 April 28, 2007 02:13 PM

啊喲喂
怎麼會這樣咧
我才幾天沒上來看看
你也都沒打回來

很痛喔
糟糕
熱敷看看嘛
老P 你負責一直換毛巾
然後把她的電腦藏起來
直到她不痛了才還她

帶她去走一走

她又在緊張什麼嗎

amy 發表於 April 28, 2007 02:00 PM

Dear 夫人
在加拿大的我其實感同身受,我曾經吃壞肚子拉到出血,去急疹等到天亮才看到醫生,結果醫生叫我回家,因為他還不知道是什麼病毒,於是我繼續回家抱馬桶,後來一位中醫朋友來家幫我針炙及煮中藥給我喝,二天就好了,第三天醫院才打電話來說是什麼病毒,叫我去拿藥簞買藥,靠!我等你們開藥不早就掛了!
夫人何不試試中醫針炙? 針炙對痛症很有效.

La Veer 發表於 April 28, 2007 12:59 PM

只能希望大家更珍惜台灣的醫療制度
那真的很棒
不要讓他垮了阿:P

SANADA 發表於 April 28, 2007 12:13 PM

Dear 夫人:

“小貓啊,別這樣坐啊,小心會椎間盤突出!”
哈哈哈
夫人怎麽會這麽可愛 ^^

哎,這句話好像也應該對我說
這幾個月幾乎天天“伏案”作業、用電腦
不知不覺 脊椎的中間點 如果不小心按到 居然又酸又痛
以前從來沒發生過呀

現在脊椎發病率正朝低齡化發展
可能和電腦有很大關係

恩,夫人
不如趁這個機會
抛棄電腦
出去走走吧 \(^o^)/

PaPa 發表於 April 28, 2007 09:24 AM

你好可憐.....

先試試線上問診吧

http://tw.knowledge.yahoo.com/question/?qid=1305090504168
這個有說且有提供一些網址
但要加會員

拜託你就試試囉

畢竟英國也不比在家(台灣)好

夫人要保重自已

發表於 April 28, 2007 07:15 AM

對了,那吃幾天就行了。不是持續吃的。
大多數的下背部痛有可能是肌肉發炎引起的...

birdshouse 發表於 April 28, 2007 06:40 AM

我以前也是這樣 後來我吃肌肉鬆弛劑有好很多喔
台灣有的藥局有賣,可以試試看。

birdshouse 發表於 April 28, 2007 06:22 AM

夫人:

這就是我很難離開台灣的原因之一,
因為我平均半個月掛一次病號啊!(sigh~~~)

KEATSLI 發表於 April 28, 2007 03:37 AM

我的牙醫師很熱門,掛他的門診,預約都排很久,我的左上跟右後都有臨時假牙,換裝正式假牙掛到兩個禮拜後,左邊不能吃,右邊不能嚼,撐了兩個禮拜苦不堪言.看了您這篇後發現,原來台灣已經逐漸跟世界接軌了....XD

德朵保重...我也保重...:P

Alhorn 發表於 April 28, 2007 12:55 AM

德朵辛苦了,在英國不能生病啊

我星期一去看牙醫,可是那可是一個月前我
牙齒最痛的時候的預約。
我很有良心地還是乖乖去看了,
沒想到,這樣檢查一下,沒開藥也沒幹麻,
也是要了我四十幾鎊! = =a
唉... 病人難當...

junhua 發表於 April 28, 2007 12:20 AM

我的經驗是這樣的,要是GP要等太長時間,就看看那一個晚上,找一輛車去醫院的急症室,說太痛,不能忍受,他們凖會給你檢查的。

Oscar Kwan 發表於 April 27, 2007 10:28 PM
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